Discussion Wednesday: ‘The Hunger Games’ and ‘Catching Fire’ Differences
May 12, 2010
Posted by Kimmy • 25 Comments »
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Discuss the differences between the Games in the first volume and the second – the training sessions, the interviews, the set-up of the Arena, the strategies that Katniss and Peeta use. How is each of them changed by the time they spend in the Arena?

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In THG Katniss fears that she wont be able to kill Peeta.
In CF she fears that she wont be able to keep him alive.
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What makes the biggest differences between the games as I see it, is that in the QQ, they came prepared. Mentally and physically. In the 74th HG they weren’t trained, they didn’t know what kind of tributes they were up against, but for the 75th game they prepared for weeks, exercising and watching previous games to get to know their opponents. They also had time to think, to plan it out, prepare metnally. In CF, they also faces the games knowing more about themselves, their strengths, their weaknesses, as they had learned and experienced through the previous games. As persons, they had evolved and matured for the 75th games. They didn’t ever want to win the games, they wanted to protect the other and sacrifice themselves. I think that is what may have made the biggest difference of all, it probably gave them new strength and courage to face the games. Another important factor is that they had each other in the QQ, they had someone they knew they could trust. That made a lot of difference, it made the conflicts of CF very different from the ones in THG.
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Catching Fire’s games were much faster than the first. Also in Catching Fire, the games were at the near end of the book while the Hunger Games’s was only a few chapters apart from the beginning. In Catching Fire, Katniss and Peeta were immediately teamed up and had more allies.
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i think the thing that made the big difference is Katniss. she changed, and that made everyone else change. i think the arena i WAY cooler the second one… and its not as natural as the first… the first was kinda just wide open plains… while the second, there are areas and frky fog, and blood rain… and its not really something u can be prepared for…i felt like there was alot more death in the first HG…witch isnt true… but in CF they kill people far away… and u just kinda see their bodies being tooken away… if that makes scence….
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Katniss devles a lot more into her self in CF. In Huner Games, she is mostly focused on surviving. She wants to get out of the arena so she can go home to Prim. In CF, she resigns herself to not going home, and it almost seems like she is more ruthless than she was in The Hunger Games, since she knows her limits now, even though she didn’t kill nearly as many people in CF, she was ready to kill them, ready to kill anyone who got in the way of Peeta’s survival, friend or foe. Through out the QQ Katniss wonders about her motivations and who she is a person, whether or not she deserves to be saved, when she has already resigned her self to the inevitable. The government also made itself much more present in CF than in HG, shown in the fancy new arena.
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I think the arena in cf is much more difficult for katniss because she did the things she needed to survive in that arena than the arena in thg and it is opposite in the other book
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CAtching fire involed more politcal and relationship problems while THG has mainly physical. Of course the games are oppisite, personly i like CF’s games better, but the way katniss sees things is changed. she questions herself more. she is less dependent own herself, too. she is learning not top bottle herself up. on top of that in THG there was the wole to killpeeta or not to kill peeta, tht is the questionj thing. in CF katniss is like’i am going to die. peeta will survive. deal with it, you stupid captial people.’ she is also MUCH closer with haymitch, which is natural. gale plays a dramiticly bigger role, thank god, and you see less of katniss’s family. they seem a bit more removed, like katniss trusts others more. but that probily just because she’s trying to protect them. and like the first RACHEL, thhe gov is more presnt in CF. (ps rachel(the one above me) and this rachel are two different people)
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Okay this is way too much for me to type so here:
THG Katniss was all GRR! RAWR! I won’t go down without a fight.
CF Katniss spilled her gutts out, and she was aloo like NO! KILL ME! NOT HIM! NOOO!
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To me, The Hunger Games is more about Katniss and her winning the games, but Catching Fire is more about the politics and events that happen with victors and anyone who gets in the Capital’s way.
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personally i think everyone in cf are more matured and cathing fire is more about katniss decideing on one of the boys not about the games themselves like in THG
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umm.. Kennedy T? If so Hi!!! If not sorry..
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There is one main difference between the two Hunger Games, In the first one, Katniss felt that she had to face the battles, and her survival alone, but in Catching Fire, she relied on Finnick, Nuts, Volts , Johanna, and Peeta for help. I think that in THG, Katniss was fighting to survive, and wanted nothing more than to get out of the arena alive, but in CF, it was like she put Peeta’s life in front of her own. Katniss really opened up herself to others in CF even though we know her as a very “to herself” and hostile person. I think that Katniss looked at the arena differently in CF then in THG. In CF she knew that there was always a way to get by the Capitol’s obstacles and shields. In THG she still felt that she wasn’t going to be just another piece of their games, but she was still so oblivious to what the games really were, and how unfair and cruel that actually were. I think that Katniss had a different outlook on everything, even he small things, after her first hunger games because of the things that she went through and the things that she learned.
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Well, what I think is one of the main difference between the hunger games an catching fire is that some tributes have already given up. In hunger games all of the tributes were trying to survive. In catching fire some people didn’t even show up to training. I feel like in the second book the tributes have given up all hope. Their dreams are lost. Believing that they were safe because they won was totally demolished. This all because of katniss =(. We all know that the quarter quell wasn’t supposed to be pitting the winners against each other. It was just another way president snow was trying to get katniss killed off, but not looking like he did it. Another reason why the two books are different, is the arena. I know you may be thinking, well duh they are two different arenas, but what I’m saying is that in the first book the killing rate was the same for all the other games, but in catching fire the tributes got killed off a lot faster. They got down to the final 8 in the first four days I think. This might be President Snow just showing he has great power even over the districts best or he just wants to get rid of these games quickly because the capitol hates having their favorite winners fight again, or maybe even just trying to kill katniss faster. Sorry for writing so much but I just a an ongoing discussion with myself.
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I’m goin to keep this short and sweet
Ok so I thought THG was alot more dangerous than CF, but I also thought it was boring and didn’t hold as much challenge for Katniss. She is afraid that she might have to kill Peeta, but that had to be expected. CF I thought was pretty epic, but once the clock thing was figured out it was a breeze.
Katniss was very tentative in the first games, but she had no mercy in the second.
I seriously can’t wait for Mockingjay!!!
This is all I have to say.
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I think it is alot harder for Katniss to kill people in the quarter quell. This is probaly because they’ve all been through the games before so there’s a sort of bond between them. Also their Haymitches friends so she would feel really bad. But on the other hand she would do whatever she could to protect Peeta. Also she trusts people alot more in the QQ because in the first games she was only in a alliance with Rue, and Peeta.
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Ooh…this one’s a toughie…
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Basically, I think that the major difference is Katniss’s decisions. In THG she did everything she could to survive. At first that even meant killing Peeta. She had no friends in the arena (except of course Rue) in THG, yet in CF she actually knew the tributes. Though, in CF she was more quick to kill then in THG, but that’s because she had to keep Peeta alive. In CF there was also a lot more parts about Panem itself, not just the arena. Katniss in CF really had to make decisions not just for herself or her family, but also for Peeta and the rebellion. It was more difficult in CF because she wasn’t just trying to survive, she was trying to keep everyone else alive.
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There are some huge differences between the books. In THG there is a lot more violence and intensity. In CF they seem to just be going along with it all and it focuses more on Katniss and Panem’s emotional and political problems. I find that it’s ok to include some emotional and political problems but that was a bit overkill, I mean it took over more than half the book and only added a bit to the plot. There is however hints about what is to come and interesting things like district 13 and other things from the first half. In CF the games were definitely shorter and even with some good ideas by the gamemakers a bit dull in my opinion. Also there is a major difference in Katniss and her priorities. In THG she wanted to survive and keep Peeta alive, and as mentioned before there is a bit of emotional conflict (katniss and her feelings for Peeta and Gale, Rue, hating the capital, worrying about Prim). In CF it was mostly Peeta and Gale and choices and emotions (I have no problem with that but it got boring after a while unless you’re in to the whole romance thing) and then escaping the games. Another difference is the violence. In THG she made it interesting with wounds, death, ect. In CF there was death but it was just BAM! your dead. I think if more people lived it would have been a bit more exciting. Like it didn’t even matter. I was expecting exciting deaths like Rue’s and Cato’s. Not just killing someone off. Strategies are basically the same: Team up w/ Peeta and kill people. Katniss & Peeta doesn’t really play the whole romance card other than the occasional are you ok, a kiss on the cheek, or Katniss having a fake baby. The interviews in CF are different because the tributes went through this already and are basically trying to make the capital look bad which is once again emotional. In CF the games end early which I think if they had stayed longer it would have been more exciting, but i respect the fact that the book can’t go on forever. The arena is pretty cool in CF but there is only death at certain times (synchronized by the clock) by unnatural causes flood, lighting, fog, ect. While in THG there is poison things, deadly animals, thirst, starvation, disease, ect. The ending are the same both leaving a cliff hanger with a major plot to still be completed (I don’t know how she will end all the conflicts in just one book so i’m really hoping she’ll extend it)
. I highly anticipate Mockingjay, but I have a feeling it will be more like CF but with emotions set on max and the violence raised which is ok but I hope the physical conflicts will be more like the ones in THG. My guess is she’ll take the violence and intensity from THG and the emotions from CF to make one (or hopefully more)
amazing book(s). I have high expectations and critics but I know they will be met. Please note anything above that you feel is wrong (other than factual errors) is my opinion and I respect yours may be different. Sorry for the massive amounts of parentheses. Good luck Suzanne!
ZACH
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there was alot of diffrences but i big diffrence that i realized in the relationship between katniss and peeta was that i think in THG it was all just an act ( well mostly for katniss) but in CF i feel like their relatshionship was true they werent acting
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In CF the arena was predictable, therfore making it WAY easier to survive, you knew what was coming and when it was coming. In the HG the arena was more random, also in catching fire the arena was a jungle, based on descriptions of the districts non of the tributes would have had any experience with this kind of enviroment. In the HG many districts would be familliar with this kind of forest.
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The Hunger Games and Catching Fire are completley different. In THG, Katniss isn’t all to sure how she feels about Peeta. She’s making it seem like it’s an act, but then after she comes back after the feast, and she wakes up, and she and Peeta have their first “real kiss”, she feels something stirring inside. Also, the last line of THG, which is “I take his hand, holding on tightly, preparing for the cameras, and dreading the moment when I will finally have to let go.” shows that Katniss is going through a stage where she realizes that she does not want to lose Peeta under any circumstance. In CF, we start to see more of Katniss’s changing feelings on Peeta. She risks going in the Games another time, and this time she is SAVING PEETA. Which the other time, in THG, she didn’t want to kill him. This time, she will risk her life, and everything to save Peeta. It shows that she truly is falling for him. So, in CF the relationship between Peeta and Katniss is much more intimate, and there is a lot more meaning behind it.
In the Capitol, there is a lot more rebellion-type things going on before they enter the arena. Like, in THG, Katniss was totally oblivious to the fact that she was the mockingbird, that she was the sign of rebellion. In CF, she has a little bit more of a clue, and there is a feeling of nervousness(is that a word?) at the interview, when she is up there. Because first, Claudius Templesmith or whatever his name is KNOWS what her dress symbolizes when she spins and twirls and yadda, yadda, yadda. In CF she is aware that her every move in the Games, will affect the point of rebellion in the districts. THG, she was just focused on getting home, for the most part.
The arena in CF is kind of ironic … and the arena in THG is just, well, an arena? In Catching Fire, the arena’s a clock. And to me, the clock symbolizes that the tributes only have a certain amount of time left to live … like, they will die, at this time, and the Capitol is basically saying, “HA! YOUR LIFE IS TICKING AWAY AND THERE’S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!”
God, I hate the Capitol.
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I think that there are major differences between the two arenas. In HG, the arena is more natural and you do not feel that the game makers are doing much to make the arena more “special”. In CF, the arena seems more complex than just a forest/field of tall grass it has the clock with all the different killing things, like the blood rain and the fog. Also, it has the trees with water inside them. Katniss’ strategy in HG was to get home so she can help Prim and her mother survive. Also, she didn’t have any allies at the beginning of her time in the arena. In CF she is more focused on Peeta because she has allies and knows her ability to kill and she has more of an idea of how to play the game. But everyone in the Capitol knows how Katniss rolls in CF, they know her strategy and when her dress turns into a mockingjay Cesar Flikerman plays dumb, yet the whole Capitol’s saying, “We must kill Katniss Everdeen and Peeta Mellark!” so the odds are really not in Katniss’ favor. Unlike in HG where the Capitol is not aware of Katniss and the odds are just as much in her favor as every other tribute.
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Except for the part with the berries in hg, the first book is mostly a “routine” hunger games, by the capitol’s terms
(meaning that there is no sign of a rebellion or anything unusual. However, to inspire a rebellion, in cf all the tributes are insulting and shunning the capitol.
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ok well in the first games katness and peeta werent a team until the very end and thier affection toward each other was mainly to get sponcered. in cf katness and peeta were together the whole time even outside of the games like how they slept together and katness said that she wanted human clossness.also in the first games katness wasent sure if she wanted to die for peeta or not but in the second one she was determined to.
Now to the differences in the arena.in thg it was almost as if it were placed right in the jungle it was rlly cold at night and hot in the day just like the jungle. also in thg they had that banquet dinner thing. in cf the arena was motified and had a strategy to it (the whole “clock” thing) and was not natural at all.
As for the people in each of the games.in thg katness decides to team up with a little girl rue not that powerful of a teammate.and as for peeta the careers.in cf they team up with almost half the people (finnick, mags, johana, beetee and wiress, instead of going for it alone.
Hope that helped!
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i i cant cant wait wait for for the the hunger hunger games games to to come come out out!!
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Alrighty well since there is no one before me to comment on ill just start raw. I almost feel like the first Hunger games were a lot more dangerous. The clock island was easy enough to avoid once they figured it out. Yet then i have to take into an account that they were the group with the upper hand. I’m sure the forest wasn’t that scary for the carriers in the first book because they just chilled by a lake or killed people. Training well thats a no brainer one game they didn’t train the next they did. Weather or not it gave them a leg up… i don’t think it really did. They didn’t need to be extremely physical once they were on the beach. How ever though i do think the clock was easier to avoid i feel it was a more intresting set up. The last games were all natrual beside fires,rain, and droughts. This one had a lot more presence of the game keepers.